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In conversation with… Tayamika Zabula, Health Economist

Tayamika Zabula is a health economist and Research Fellow in the Academic Unit of Health Economics at University of Leeds, where she joined in 2023. She completed her PhD in financial inclusion and applied microeconomics at the University of Leicester and has a background in applied economics with a focus on policy analysis and improving population wellbeing. Her work sits at the intersection of economics and health, with interests in development, poverty, and health systems. Tayamika’s research has more recently focused on weight management and obesity, contributing to projects across both adult and child populations. These include work on type 2 diabetes remission, the NHS Complications of Excess Weight (CEW) programme, and a ‘Cost of Cancer in the UK’ report. In this conversation, Tayamika shares insights into the role of health economics in weight management, and the challenges of evaluating and evidencing impact within real-world services.

Understanding the role of health economics

Describing her day-to-day work, Tayamika explained the deeply collaborative nature of health economics. Projects are rarely carried out in isolation, typically involving multidisciplinary teams and regular meetings and project updates. This is alongside the data analysis that forms the basis of the role.

“We’re usually involved on the data side of it and the data analysis, so we normally are the ones informing the rest of the team how the outcomes are looking, what type of people we have involved in our data demographics, and so on”

Tayamika pointed out that this means balancing different expectations. While clinicians and academics may be interested in one thing, commissioners may want evidence of value for money, which can create difficult conversations, particularly when the data does not align with expectations.

“We just want to tell the story of what’s in the data and it might not be what people want to hear”

Why obesity needs an economic lens

Tayamika emphasised the importance of looking at weight management through an economic lens.

“If we can deal with the root cause… then we’ll be able to help these people living with obesity to live better lives”

From a health economics perspective, the case for investment is not only about reducing future healthcare costs, but also about improving people’s quality of life. Intervening earlier may help prevent later complications and support better health and wellbeing in the present.

Tayamika discussed how demonstrating value is not straightforward. Decision-makers often need hard numbers for return on investment, but weight management services can be difficult to evaluate when outcomes unfold over long periods of time and available datasets are limited.

The challenge of proving long-term value

A major theme throughout our conversation was the tension between short-term decision-making and long-term benefit. Tayamika pointed out that commissioners may want to know what savings a service will generate, and when they will be seen, but those answers are far from straightforward.

Tayamika explained that while early signs may suggest that savings are likely, the available data often does not allow economists to show this with precision.

“We can see that there will be a saving, but we can’t tell you how much”

This can be especially challenging when deciding where to allocate limited resources. When the evidence cannot demonstrate a clear and immediate return, weight management services may struggle to compete with other areas of investment, even where the long-term case is strong.

Looking beyond weight

Another key issue raised was the emphasis often placed on weight itself, with Tayamika reflecting on the importance of considering broader outcomes too.

“They just want to see the weight”

Tayamika explained the other meaningful signs of success which might be seen in weight management, such as improved quality of life, self-esteem, school attendance, and reduced anxiety and depression. This is also where health economists offer a broader perspective- rather than looking solely at weight, economic evaluation often considers quality-adjusted life years (QALYs). QALYs capture whether people are living not just longer, but in better health.

“We want them to live those years in the best health possible”

QALYs look at mobility, self-care, usual activities, pain/discomfort, and anxiety/depression. Tayamika explained that an intervention may still be worthwhile if it improves quality of life, even if it does not drastically reduce weight.

Lessons for local authorities

When discussing interventions led by local authorities, Tayamika emphasised the importance of accessibility, equity, and practical support. Strategies such as ensuring support is close to home, reducing the need for long journeys, and offering flexibility around work hours were all highlighted as useful to reduce the cost for individuals.

For local authorities hoping to evaluate their own programmes, Tayamika suggested that it does not always need to be overly complex. She pointed out that even simple questionnaires administered at the beginning of a programme and at regular intervals can provide insights into whether improvements are happening.

“It might not be the best, but it will give them an indication of whether there’s improvements or not”

This highlights that while large-scale validated datasets are useful, practical local evaluation can begin with small, consistent steps.

Capturing wider impacts of interventions

Tayamika highlighted that weight management interventions often have wider effects than services immediately recognise. She explained that a programme may appear unsuccessful if judged on a narrow outcome, while in reality it may be generating positive changes elsewhere, for example with a child more confident in school. Similarly support provided to one person in a household may positively influence the habits and wellbeing of the whole household.

“We just look at the direct impacts, and we sort of ignore the indirect ones, which sometimes are just as large”

For Tayamika, this calls for a stronger collaboration between services and sectors. If local authorities, schools, health services and researchers were better linked, it might be easier to understand the full impact of interventions rather than judging them in isolation.

Addressing stigma in conversations about weight

The conversation also turned to stigma, particularly the risk that economic language around obesity can reinforce harmful public narratives. Headlines about the ‘cost’ of obesity can feed the misconception that obesity is an individual choice. Tayamika was clear in challenging this framing, stressing that obesity is shaped by a range of factors, including genetics, environment, and wider social conditions.

“People don’t choose to live with obesity”

For Tayamika, it is important to educate people about this while ensuring that person first language is used rather than reducing people to body size alone.

The role of lived experience

Although often seen as highly quantitative, Tayamika reflected on the importance of lived experience in health economics. Lived experience can help identify what matters most to people, what costs are being missed, and what outcomes should be measured. She described how patients and families often reveal hidden impacts that purely quantitative economic analyses might otherwise overlook, such as lost work hours, caring responsibilities, travel demands, and burden placed on households. These perspectives can help ensure that evaluations reflect what matters in real life, not just what is easiest to measure.

The role of researchers and clinicians

When asked what researchers and clinicians can do to strengthen the evidence base, Tayamika’s answer was simple: collect good quality data, and collect it consistently.

Without strong data, economists are limited in what they can show, and services are limited in what they can defend. Routine data collection can make it easier to evaluate impact, communicate value, and build stronger arguments for continued investment.

“The numbers can only speak for themselves if there are enough of them to tell a story”

Looking ahead

Tayamika emphasised the need for weight management services to be understood not only as a response to current health needs, but as an investment in future health, wellbeing, and wider social outcomes. The challenge now is ensuring that the systems used to evaluate these services are sufficiently broad, joined up, and robust to recognise their full value.

Written by Kaydee Shepherd, YORA Coordinator and PhD student at Leeds Beckett University.

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YORA Newsletter Spring 2026

The Spring 2026 YORA newsletter is now available online here, and distributed to YORA members email inbox.

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PhD Opportunities at Sheffield Hallam University

See below PhD opportunities at Sheffield Hallam University:

🔬 Child Body Shape Phenotypes & Health Risk Prediction
Help transform how we understand and predict children’s health risks by developing new body shape phenotypes that go beyond traditional measures. https://www.findaphd.com/phds/project/transforming-lives-phd-scholarship-sheffield-hallam-university-child-body-shape-phenotypes-and-health-risk-prediction/?p194832

📏 Validating 3D Child Body Composition: Agreement, Bias, Equity & Correction
Work at the forefront of 3D imaging to evaluate accuracy, identify bias, and improve equity in child body composition assessment. https://www.findaphd.com/phds/project/transforming-lives-phd-scholarship-sheffield-hallam-university-validating-3d-child-body-composition-agreement-bias-equity-and-correction/?p194831

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YORA Webinar – Food Insecurity, Inequalities and Weight Management across the North of England

YORA Webinar – 26th February 2026, 14:00-16:00

Come join us online on 26th February 2026 for our Food Insecurity, Inequalities and Weight Management across the North of England webinar event. We welcome attendees from the public, academia, practice, and policy based across the North of England region- not just YORA members. To attend the YORA webinar, please register here.

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YORA Newsletter Winter 2026

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Every Body Deserves Kindness

We are excited to introduce Every Body Deserves Kindness, a short film for children aged 6–9 designed to raise awareness of weight-related bullying while promoting kindness, inclusion, and positive body image.

The film was co-designed with young people, families, paediatricians, psychologists, child weight management experts, as well as primary school teachers and head teachers, ensuring it is both engaging and evidence-informed.

Alongside the film, we have developed a comprehensive teaching pack, aligned to PHSE for Key Stage 1 and 2. These resources are designed to support children in understanding, discussing, and challenging stigma and bias around body weight, shape, and size.

? Watch the film here.

?Click here for more information about the film and to download the free resource pack.

If you could spare a few minutes, we’d really appreciate your feedback on the resource pack. Please click here to answer a few questions. Thank you!

We hope these resources help create a more kind, inclusive, and body-positive environment in your community.

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In conversation with… Dr. Dolly van Tulleken, Policy Consultant

Dolly van Tulleken is a policy consultant and visiting researcher at the at Cambridge University’s MRC Epidemiology Unit where she completed her PhD and postdoctoral position specializing in government policy processes and the history of government policy on obesity and food-related ill health in England. Her research has been published in leading journals such as The Milbank Quarterly, BMJ Open, PLOS One, and Public Health Nutrition. Dolly’s expertise lies in analysing policy effectiveness and identifying the mechanisms that drive meaningful public health change. In 2024, she co-authored Nourishing Britain: A Political Manual for Improving the Nation’s Health with Henry Dimbleby, which contained practical political insights about food-related health policy from 20 prime ministers, health secretaries and other senior politicians. In this conversation, Dr. Dolly van Tulleken shared with us her journey through academia, policymaking, and consultancy, focusing on driving meaningful change in the food system.

Bridging Academia and Policy

Dr. van Tulleken highlights how her PhD research examining decades of proposed government obesity policies led her to feel a strong urgency to help effect real-world change. This prompted her return to the policy world, where she founded Dolitics, a consultancy aimed at supporting evidence-based policy change. Whilst working mostly with charity clients in her consultancy role, Dr. van Tulleken is also involved in research, remaining a visiting researcher at the MRC epidemiology unit in Cambridge. When summing up her role, Dr. van Tulleken termed herself an information broker with the aim of progressing policy. “Most of my work is about how to actually try and support policy change to happen and that’s done through all sorts of different ways; research collaboration, liaising with policymakers, building up networks”.

The Power of Multidisciplinary Collaboration

While acknowledging the challenges of working across sectors and disciplines, Dr. van Tulleken emphasises that impactful change requires collective effort, sharing her motto- “nothing worth achieving can be achieved alone”. The expertise in her work, she points out, “is almost knowing who to collaborate with and learn from and where the interesting work is happening”, then being able to bring the best people together.

Translating Research into Practice

Drawing from her co-authored 2023 report, Nourishing Britain: A Political Manual for Improving the Nation’s Health, she reflects on the use of research as a tool for practical action. The manual is based on interviews with 20 senior political figures and offers guidance to future leaders on overcoming barriers to food policy reform. Dr. van Tulleken explains “the whole point was to give the manual to today’s politicians and tomorrow’s politicians and say ‘these are the sorts of challenges your predecessors say you’re very likely to face, and this is how to get over them’”.

Advice for Early-Career Researchers and Advocates

For those hoping to make an impact on obesity policy, Dr. van Tulleken encourages leaning into your strengths, embracing collaboration, and doing work that you love. She urges people not to limit themselves- whether by standing for local office, contributing to campaigns, or simply making valuable research more accessible to those in power.

Her advice includes:

  • Be communicative: If you’re producing work, share your research findings with people working in the space. Not a lot of people know what is being published, so package it up and be an active sharer. Translate academic findings into actionable summaries for policymakers and the public. “Sharing knowledge can be incredibly, incredibly powerful”.
  • Build relationships: Connect with local leaders, policymakers, and community groups. She adds “scarily, sometimes the stuff that ends up becoming very influential can be a matter of someone having a connection with that person”.
  • Stay politically open: As a researcher, explore different ways to engage with Parliament, or consider standing for election or becoming a councillor as part of the change process. Reflecting on her own experience of standing for election, Dr. van Tulleken says “I stood knowing I wouldn’t win, but I used the process of developing a manifesto, having a platform to speak out, to talk about these sorts of issues that I care about”.

Where Policymakers Can Start

When asked how local authorities might begin addressing obesity, Dr. van Tulleken underscores the value of local action whilst recognising “lots of things need to happen all at once in order for change to be made”. She again points to the importance of building connections, citing an example of one man on a mission to create a localised food system. “He was building up these personal connections to see whether there could be better distribution networks, more localised systems, whether retailers would be able to have better connections with local farmers”. Dr. van Tulleken sees local authorities having an enormous amount of power, referring to examples such as banning junk food advertising on public transport and building local food networks as effective grassroots strategies. She also points to the Scottish Good Food Nation Act as a promising model for long-term, localised food planning.

Navigating Weight Stigma

When asked about how we can avoid the trap of individual blame and stigma around weight, Dr. van Tulleken shares her frustrations with the food system being a “primary driver of health problems”. She points out “the cards are stacked against everyone to enjoy a healthy life, which I think is completely ludicrous”.

The more attention is on the food system and on the large corporations that are benefitting the most from this system, the more we move away from the blame on the individual and we understand that we’re actually all operating in this system”.

This pressure on those who are benefiting from the system, she notes, is how we can move away from stigma and shame, and allow people to recognise that “their health, their eating, food, weight, whatever- it usually all links to the food system that we’re in”.

Dr. van Tulleken recognises that “even talking about it, even when trying to counter against stigma, shame and blame, it can be really hard”. When telling people she works in food policy, people respond with ‘oh no don’t look at what I’m eating’, or ‘don’t judge me for my lunch’.

You’ve still got this notion that you’re there judging, and I think it’s a really important responsibility of people working in this space to actively be aware of that and how we can communicate in a way that shows this is about making sure everyone can enjoy a nourishing diet and have affordable access to that”.

The biggest gaps in Obesity Research

When asked about pressing research priorities, Dr. van Tulleken highlights that there is very little activity in what a sustainable, health-promoting food system could actually look like- especially at the local level. She urges researchers and policymakers to not only study this, but to experiment, prototype, and learn by doing.

You have to kind of experiment- it really takes innovation, experimentation, confidence and risk by policy makers and researchers in this space to just try things. Monitor it, see what works, see what doesn’t work, but with the ambition of going how can we make a nourishing food system commercially viable?

Local authorities, she says, are well-positioned to pilot these innovations despite limited resources, and she sees promise in Scotland’s Good Food Nation Act, which mandates government-backed local food planning.

Challenges and Joys of the Work

Finding non-conflicting funding not tied to powerful food corporations emerges as the biggest barrier for Dr. van Tulleken in her work. “If you have very strict rules about where you get funding from, the pots that are available are very limited”. Though she does note that policy-backed initiatives like Scotland’s Good Food Nation Act may signal progress.

On a more positive note, she enjoys the clarity and purpose in her day-to-day work and the joy of collaborating with passionate colleagues, including family members-something she sees as a unique privilege.

What’s Next

Looking ahead, Dr. van Tulleken hopes to continue conducting deep-dive research while improving how findings are communicated. “Filling in the gaps of the research that we need to continue making happen, with no excuses for that being a reason for inaction”.

Her long-term vision includes encouraging more people to become change makers- especially those motivated by food justice and public health.

If I can see more and more people getting elected who are primarily in politics for food and health, that would be an incredible achievement.”

Link to Dolitics: https://dolitics.co.uk/home

Written by Kaydee Shepherd, YORA Coordinator and PhD student at Leeds Beckett University.

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In conversation with… Dr. Oliver Mytton, Clinical Associate Professor and Honorary Public Health Consultant

Dr. Oliver Mytton is a Clinical Associate Professor and Honorary Public Health Consultant at UCL Great Ormond Street Institute for Child Health. With a focus on research, policy, and public health practice, Dr. Mytton’s insights are shaping the future of obesity prevention. He has unique insights from his work across bodies such as local and national government, non-governmental organisations (NGOs), and different layers of the NHS. In this conversation, he discusses his path into obesity research, his upcoming projects which could influence policy and health outcomes in the UK, and the challenges and rewarding aspects of his career.

From Medicine to Public Health

Dr. Mytton’s career trajectory began as a medical student, where he began questioning “how and why people got sick in the first place”. His growing interest in public health led him to wonder how- rather than treating one individual with a condition- would you put in the right systems of care for multiple people with these conditions? During his studies, Dr. Mytton focussed a dissertation project on food taxes, before then undertaking a medical elective on the Thai Burmese border looking at malaria control, sparking his interest in using research to drive policy and deliver services practically. Whilst training as a junior doctor, Dr. Mytton took an opportunity to work for the Chief Medical Office, which led his way into public health.

He later worked in various public health roles, including at the Department for Health and Social Care, where he saw the intersection of policy and public health firsthand. His time working with NGOs and healthcare systems further influenced his decision to focus on obesity.

The Move Towards Obesity Research

Dr. Mytton’s shift to studying obesity came during his medical training, inspired by the work of Richard Doll on smoking. “I was thinking about what’s the next big challenge for the next generation coming through because smoking felt as if it was solved as a public health issue. Looking back on it, that wasn’t quite true. But for me, the next big challenge seemed to be obesity”. Whilst working for the Health Select Committee, Dr. Mytton was involved in editing Time to Solve Childhood Obesity, a report which examined the roles of government, food industries, and policies in preventing childhood obesity.

When asked what priorities should come from the report, Dr. Mytton believes that policymakers must think “more about structural changes and less about individual interventions”. He adds the need for a push for further regulation of the food industry, “…so we’re seeing healthier food on our shelves and food marketed in a more responsible way”.

The Role of Clinical Experience in Public Health

Having a clinical background has helped Dr. Mytton approach public health issues with a grounded perspective. “I think it’s given me an ability to sort of try and boil things down to the basics. And it’s just like trying to take the complexity out of a language because you have to do that when you talk to patients. But you also have to do that a lot of the time when you talk to policymakers” he explains. This experience also helps him understand the challenges of translating clinical interventions into population-wide strategies.

Upcoming Research: Shaping Policy and Public Health

Dr. Mytton will soon be leading two major research projects that could influence obesity prevention strategies in the UK. One project evaluates the National Child Measurement Programme (NCMP), a project which is broken into two components. The research team will seek to “understand the impact of measurement on children principally, whether it has any negative impacts on their mental well-being but also understanding for any sort of positive benefits or changes, and understanding that from a child perspective and a parent perspective”. The second component looks at how local authorities deliver the NCMP, which Dr. Mytton explains the aim as “understanding which approaches may be more cost effective or better, which may depend on different local circumstances. Rural areas may have to do things differently as the class sizes can be smaller and the journey times between schools longer. Also understanding how local authorities use that data locally. What’s the local value for that data?”

The second project investigates the impact of price promotions in supermarkets, particularly regarding unhealthy foods. Dr. Mytton and his team aim to assess whether voluntary restrictions by supermarkets can lead to healthier consumer choices. He plans to investigate to what extent they were fully implemented before understanding the impact on how much consumers spend. The project will involve an economic analysis to understand impact on the sort of share price, turnover, employability in the supermarkets and key manufacturers that might be implemented by what the supermarkets have done as well as working with consumers to understand their perspectives.

Challenges at the Local Authority Level

Dr. Mytton emphasizes that local authorities face significant challenges when it comes to weight management and obesity prevention. For local authorities, limited resources and competing demands complicate the decision-making process. Dr. Mytton encourages local authorities to focus on structural and policy-level changes, though he acknowledges that the political buy-in is often a significant barrier. “You’ve got to have the political buy in and some of the leavers you can pull possibly don’t have that much impact at a local level” he adds.

The Biggest Gaps in Obesity Research

When asked about gaps in obesity research, Dr. Mytton identifies the need for more effective regulation of the food industry. “We have a series of structural responses that have been outlined for how we might regulate in food industry… do they go far enough? Probably not.” He identifies that the challenge lies in balancing the government’s role in regulating food industries with public and industry acceptability, pointing out how it’s difficult to get industry buy-in because regulation often threatens profit growth. “It plays into a bigger narrative we’re seeing at the moment around the regulation of industry, whether it’s around carbon emissions, social media, tech, or food”.

Overcoming Challenges: The Struggle for Funding

For Dr. Mytton, one of the biggest career challenges has been securing funding for his research. “Grants are quite short term” he explains. “Long-term, secure funding doesn’t really exist”, he adds, which is a challenge faced across the world of research.

Personal Reflections on His Career

Dr. Mytton reflects on the most rewarding aspects of his career in obesity research. “At first, I thought it would be seeing policies that I have worked on being implemented but that takes a long time and there are so many other factors involved,” he says. As he has progressed, he realises it’s more “giving evidence, data and facts a voice and ensuring they are heard and play into the decision-making process.”

He also finds satisfaction in the day-to-day “working in teams and helping junior researchers develop”. Reflecting on the nature of research, Dr. Mytton adds “it’s helpful to get your satisfaction from different sorts of things because some of these things are very slow long-term burns and some of the things are kind of more immediate day-to-day”.

Conclusion

Dr. Mytton’s work continues to shape the direction of obesity prevention in the UK, combining clinical expertise, public health knowledge, and innovative research. As his projects progress, they will likely influence both local and national policies, aiding us in preventative measures. His passion for giving evidence a voice remains a driving force in his career, and his research will continue to play a pivotal role in public health in the years to come.

Read more about Dr. Mytton’s work by following this link.

Written by Kaydee Shepherd, YORA Coordinator and PhD student at Leeds Beckett University.